When to start using HTML5 and CSS3

[administrator]

Hi,

 

I just put out a new video on when web designers should start using HTML5 and CSS3 in your standard website.

 

I've been testing new video recording methods - I hope you like it.

 

Stefan

[Wickham]

I think that people can use CSS3 features where they are purely visual like box-shadow because if they aren't processed your page still looks OK.

 

However, if you use a CSS3 feature that controls the processing, like <video>...</video>, then the video won't show in browsers that don't process it, which wrecks the page.

 

So which are the features that are only visual and harmless if not processed?

These sites have some information

http://www.deepbluesky.com/blog/-/browser-support-for-css3-and-html5_72/

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-html5-diff-20080122/

which features are dangerous to use now?

[administrator]

I think that people can use CSS3 features where they are purely visual like box-shadow because if they aren't processed your page still looks OK.

 

 

 

I can see that but you would have to have a flexible layout to accommodate the change in appearance between those browsers that can render CSS3 vs. those that cannot.

 

S

[krillz]

Well to get a boost people would have to start doing the thing that was popular when firefox first came out remember this text; Does this site look like shit in your browser? It's because you are using a shit browser *Link to download FF*

 

Anyway it would take a couple of big sites to switch over completely and urge people to use browser that have this support for it to catch on, it will be one of those 5 years plus transision phases all over again .

[administrator]

Well to get a boost people would have to start doing the thing that was popular when firefox first came out remember this text; Does this site look like shit in your browser? It's because you are using a shit browser *Link to download FF*

 

Anyway it would take a couple of big sites to switch over completely and urge people to use browser that have this support for it to catch on, it will be one of those 5 years plus transision phases all over again .

 

Yea, good luck with that one. After a few years of the FF campaign, IE still has a majority share. It is up to Microsoft to push an IE9 that is up to date and to get people off of IE6, IE7 and IE8.

 

... Yes, even IE6 is still being used!

 

S

[krillz]

Yea, good luck with that one. After a few years of the FF campaign, IE still has a majority share. It is up to Microsoft to push an IE9 that is up to date and to get people off of IE6, IE7 and IE8.

 

... Yes, even IE6 is still being used!

 

S

 

Well it's the mentality of if it works it ain't broke.. the bottom line is people are good with only being able to access a page and see it's content and wouldn't bother about downloading and installing new software ( As can be seen with the fact that people are still using IE6) . And unfortunately it happened to be that IE is the browser from the getgo and together with that mentality they are stuck.

 

And what apple are trying to do with going with html 5 will only split the internet in it initial phase as the majority of sites that will be html 5 with all new goodies I assume will be web platforms aimed at the iTable and other apple product clients, maybe some "geek"/technology sites too.

 

Let see I bet in 5 years (if nothing amazing happens in the time between) we will be bitching about people still stuck with IE8 talking about some new awesome internet phenomena.

Edited May 26, 2010 by krillz