Wickham Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I've been looking at the new element tags in these webpages:- http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/#new-elements http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html section, article, aside, header, footer, nav, dialog, figure, audio, video, embed (new use), mark, meter, time, canvas, command, datagrid, details, datalist, datatemplate, rule, nest, event-source, output, progress, ruby, type and new attributes:- media, ping, value, charset, autofocus, and others Will these be any use to someone designing a site for the general public who will have old browsers? I can only see them being of use in a company intranet where all computers have new browsers or where the website users are all high-tech IT people, like university computer departments. If we use them in websites for the general public, will the pages display in any reasonable way? If I use instead of will an old computer browser leave a space or just ignore it? I also notice that the existing list of tags includes q, cite and address, does anybody use them? Do they work in IE6? Or is it just that you have to add a style to each like h tags and otherwise they are normal text, except that screen readers read out the tag name? I realise that HTML 5 is not yet available, but I'd like to know whether any of it will actually be useable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkencreative Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 On the positive side, it looks like HTML 5 will allow for better semantic markup, and will mean we can use instead of making our code slightly easier to read and mark up using CSS. As you say though, when will this actually be usable? Hard to say... I suppose when 90% of browsers support it. I'm not too worried about Firefox/Safari/Chrome/Opera, since they tend to lead with new features, but IE may (as usual) slow things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwsimon Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm more in agreement with the ALA article currently on their front page. The new tags, while useful, are only a single subset of what HTML could be used for. What we really need is extensibility - the ability to add our own tags, attributes, or "hooks", to more clearly define structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwsimon Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) Also, ? seriously? Why not or or ? I'm having a hard time taking this working group seriously, with recommendations like this. Edited January 9, 2009 by lwsimon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) The q, cite and address elements are not new, they appear on the w3schools list of elements http://www.w3schools.com/tags/default.asp so I thought I would do a quick check. q { color: red; } address { color: green; } cite { color: blue; } Tom Smith 26 This Road Newtown This is a citation This is a quotation In IE6 and IE7 the q text was just plain black text, but in Firefox, Opera, Safari and IE8 it was black in "...." when I expected red text. In IE6, IE7, IE8, Firefox, Opera and Safari browsers the address and cite elements produced italic text with the styled colors. Although these are supposed to be available now I've never seen a webpage on this forum or anywhere else that uses them. Edited January 10, 2009 by Wickham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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