imhere Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Why are some calling Lessons or Tutorials "movies" Whats wrong with calling it what it is, A "lesson" is not a MOVIE, We all know what a movie is.. Why are we now calling Lessons or Tutorials "MOVIES". Have we come this far to change the English language to whatever we want. Im thinking its bothering others, or maybe not.. Can somebody tell me why seemingly intelligent people are doing this, its so bizarre.. Quote
Andrea Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Who are 'some'? How do you feel about incorrect grammar and punctuation in the English language? Now that's a topic that I get excited about. Drives me nuts when people write an obvious question and don't end it with a question mark - even worse when there is no punctuation whatsoever. I feel the same about missing apostrophes between 'what' and (i)s or 'I' and (a)m, etc. Quote
daddyalfie Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Must agree with Andrea on this one. Also, what is so horrible about calling a tutorial a movie, if indeed it is one? If it was a slide-show, yeah, I'd agree or a book lesson. If it moves it is a movie! Alfie Quote
imhere Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Posted February 24, 2014 Must be a touchy subject.. .. Here is a multiple choice answer.. fill in the blanks only ONE answer is right acording to some. In the next ________ we will cover how to use the paintbrush in photoshop.. The blank is fill in by : 1. lesson 2. tutorial 3. movie Make you choice.. But try to be objective with no ax to grind.. Quote
falkencreative Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Sure, "lesson" or "tutorial" would make more sense. "Movie" or "video" still gets the point across. Most lessons are recorded with a rough outline in mind, but no script, so there will be times when someone is bound to say something that isn't 100% perfect. If it doesn't change the understanding of the concept, it usually isn't worth it to potentially re-record the entire video for something very minor. I guess I don't see what the big deal is? The point is that you're learning whatever subject you are studying, not a minor word choice. Quote
imhere Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Posted February 25, 2014 Lynda.com, ALL their videos specifically say MOVIE , I know they do it on purpose, that's why im asking.. And i have seen tutorials from killersites.com they do the same thing call it MOVIES.. lynda.com started it.. others are copying them.. Whats what bothering me.. they are doing it on purpose.. ask anyone they will confirm.. and thats what brought me to ask the question. hopefully ill get a answer.. I think their lawyers came to them one day and said guess what guys, we are going to call them movies that wey it qualify s fro the FBI warning for copy protection.. thats my guess.. Quote
falkencreative Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 Well, at least at KillerSites, we are conspiracy theory free. Stefan has made no requests regarding how we phrase what we call the tutorials. As a screencast author, I tend to call them "tutorials" or "videos", but not usually "movies" (perhaps I'd call a extremely long, non-stop video a movie, but in my mind, a movie is an hour+ long, so my 10 minute videos don't count). It sounds like the author of the Photoshop course called them "movies". How we refer to them depends on our preference. Copy protection is built into anything you post online -- it doesn't matter whether one calls it a movie or tutorial or video or whatever. This has a reasonably clear explanation of online copyright: http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/copyright-fair-use-and-how-it-works-for-online-images/ Copyright attaches as soon as the original work is created, and applies to both published and unpublished works. As soon as you type words, click the shutter on your camera (or, for many of you, hit the home button on your iPhone), apply paint to canvas or paper or lay down tracks for your next hit, you’ve got a copyright (with some exceptions). Quote
imhere Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Posted February 25, 2014 Maybe some will chime in that have experience in this area.. Everyone knows that Lynda.com in ALL their tutorials they call them MOVIES and thats what im looking to get answered. Thanks for all your input so far.. but the question is valid.. Quote
falkencreative Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 Maybe some will chime in that have experience in this area.. Everyone knows that Lynda.com in ALL their tutorials they call them MOVIES and thats what im looking to get answered. Thanks for all your input so far.. but the question is valid.. Maybe you should ask Lynda.com support then? We have nothing to do with Lynda, so I imagine asking them directly will get you better results. Quote
Andrea Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 I've never even watched any Lynda tutorials. So far, everything I needed, I found on Killersites. I agree with Ben, nobody here will be able to tell you why Lydia might do or call something the way they do - we're Killersites, not Lydia. And as to this being a touchy subject, it seems to be so only for you. Quote
imhere Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Posted February 25, 2014 Dreamweaver CS6 with Killersites (Killersites.com) https://learnable.com/courses/dreamweaver-cs6-2786 I guess you are not familiar with the content you employer produces as the above links proves that Santo Romano does exactly that. Plus others i have seen.. Thats why I came here to ask the question. Quote
falkencreative Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 As a screencast author for Killersites, I'll repeat: Stefan has made no requests regarding how we phrase what we call the tutorials. As a screencast author, I tend to call them "tutorials" or "videos", but not usually "movies" (perhaps I'd call a extremely long, non-stop video a movie, but in my mind, a movie is an hour+ long, so my 10 minute videos don't count). It sounds like the author of the Dreamweaver course called them "movies". How we refer to them depends on our preference. Quote
Andrea Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 I guess you are not familiar with the content you employer produces as the above links proves that Santo Romano does exactly that. Plus others i have seen.. Thats why I came here to ask the question. Not sure who you're talking to, but I'm no employee. My presence here is strictly voluntary, and I'm not compensated for my forum contributions. And again, I get that the use of the word 'movie' in this context bugs you, but it does not have the same - or any - effect on me. Sorry. Quote
imhere Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Posted February 25, 2014 Copy protection is built into anything you post online -- it doesn't matter whether one calls it a movie or tutorial or video or whatever. Not True.. Im talking about Federal Protection.. Only Specific Content is protected under the FBI warning.. Movies are one of them.. Your tutorials are NOT.. Sure you can goto civil court, but the FEDS wont care.. Look it up.. Quote
Andrea Posted February 26, 2014 Report Posted February 26, 2014 Copy protection is built into anything you post online -- it doesn't matter whether one calls it a movie or tutorial or video or whatever. Not True.. Im talking about Federal Protection.. Only Specific Content is protected under the FBI warning.. Movies are one of them.. Your tutorials are NOT.. Sure you can goto civil court, but the FEDS wont care.. Look it up.. The issue still seems to be that you are the only one in this discussion who feels this passionate about the entire topic. I'm not saying you're the only one, just that none of your like-minded fellows have found this conversation yet. While we're waiting for their arrival, maybe you can study http://www.copyright.gov/title17/ and let Stef &Co know if his work here is in any imminent danger. I'm sure he'd appreciate any heads up. Quote
hecrowell Posted March 13, 2014 Report Posted March 13, 2014 Must be a touchy subject.. .. Here is a multiple choice answer.. fill in the blanks only ONE answer is right acording to some. In the next ________ we will cover how to use the paintbrush in photoshop.. The blank is fill in by : 1. lesson 2. tutorial 3. moviei Make you choice.. But try to be objective with no ax to grind.. You need a 4th choice: All of the above Quote
administrator Posted March 16, 2014 Report Posted March 16, 2014 Hi! I guess I should chime in here: movie vs. video vs. tutorial vs. lesson. I never cared because the distinction between them is pretty much irrelevant within the context of a course. What I mean to say is that since you are watching a course on a subject, whether the author uses one term or another to refer to a video (learning segment?) ... it doesn't matter, because you know what he is talking about since you are doing the course/video/lesson/movie. Where I DO get picky, is when it comes to technical terms within a video/tutorial/movie ... where the term may not be clear to people. For example: method vs. function ... Although technically slightly different, in practice a method is a function and a function is a method but the student may not know this, so the teacher needs to clarify this up front and/or be consistent in their presentation. Just for the record, a method is a function within a class. This is basic object oriented programming theory, so don't worry about it if you are lost. Back to movie vs. video vs. tutorial: I think it is pretty clear to everyone what the speaker/teacher is talking about when this is mentioned. KillerSites Videos vs. Lynda's: Our video courses have taught tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) over the years and many have started successful careers as a result - I get emails every week from old students who are now in the field and doing very well. Our teachers (Ben, Santo, John) are all highly experienced in the web design and development field and I hand-picked them because they also had/have teaching talent. No, we don't have green-screen effects and people using hand puppets but our courses are packed with a lot of teaching value. Our teachers can actually teach well - so no gimmicks are required! Ciao! Stefan Quote
daddyalfie Posted March 21, 2014 Report Posted March 21, 2014 Well said Stephan! @ IMHERE. Better quit now! All your comments make you look like the eastern end of west-bound horse. Your spelling and grammar makes you look under-educated and / or ignorant. (OK! I have vented my spleen!) Alfie Quote
administrator Posted March 26, 2014 Report Posted March 26, 2014 Thanks to all. I try to be low-key ... but sometimes you have to step up and defend yourself. Stef Quote
imhere Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Posted March 31, 2014 nobody sees my point. Lynda.com goes out of their way to call them movies. I don't know why.. there must be a reason.. question: Can we agree calling a lesson or a tutorial a "MOVIE" is not normal. Sure anyone can slip and say movie and yes i know what them mean by it but that's not the point. In EVERY tutorial they are specifically called MOVIES.. that's my point and there must be a reason to do so.. Why is my question.. Quote
falkencreative Posted March 31, 2014 Report Posted March 31, 2014 ...maybe you should ask Lynda.com? We don't know why they do that. Quote
administrator Posted March 31, 2014 Report Posted March 31, 2014 nobody sees my point. Lynda.com goes out of their way to call them movies. I don't know why.. there must be a reason.. question: Can we agree calling a lesson or a tutorial a "MOVIE" is not normal. Sure anyone can slip and say movie and yes i know what them mean by it but that's not the point. In EVERY tutorial they are specifically called MOVIES.. that's my point and there must be a reason to do so.. Why is my question.. The reason: Years ago in Lynda's garage, she and her husband said something like: "Hey, let's call these videos 'movies'." And Lynda's husband agreed and all was well. Stef Quote
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