Yes I have looked at his tutorials very nicely done, but there just is not enough info there to accomplish what I would like to do on our website as I think there may be more coding there than I am capible of doing with just a few tutorials:) It is mind boggling as to all of the functions, arrays, querys and so on. I guess I have been playing around with html way to long. I have a few php scripts on our website right now such as phpbb3 and online support but they were pretty much self install stuff so I have not played around with the code end of it much.