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Thread: New article - dealing with bargain-hunter clients
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admin
Advanced Member Joined: Jun 14, 2003 Post Count: 2933 Status: Offline |
I've put out a new post on dealing with bargain-hunter clients - I've tried a slightly different writing style and was looking for feedback. Thanks. Stefan ---------------------------------------- Stefan Mischook Video Tutorial Store | Web Templates |
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lm
Advanced Member Joined: Oct 27, 2004 Post Count: 2550 Status: Offline |
I just hope that beginners would learn fast - after couple of such "drained projects" they will become wiser. On the other hand almost all (potential ) clients - except ones who more or less familiar with computers- really think that everything on the web is suppose to be cheap (or free). I have now a suggestion from a relative that i should build a website with everything possible in it including (huge) data base of members, their personal pages, all their works listed with them paying for membership with secure login and payments online (what else not): I'm to make it all for free with the prospect of earn some on future sales). I suppose not only buld this website but support it further. I know it will be for me a good practice on what i like anyway to do but then: if it is not payed work - then what it is. So if it is a hobby - i do it in a spare time right after watering my geraniums. ---------------------------------------- My blog |
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Susie
Advanced Member Ohio, USA Joined: May 30, 2004 Post Count: 2677 Status: Offline |
Good article. I think if some of you knew what my brother-in-law paid me to design his website, you'd probably want to slap me for accepting such a low amount.  But when I started, I really had no idea what I was doing. It was a huge learning experience for me. But because I'm such a newbie, I have no idea what I should be charging people should I get lucky enough to gain another client. I've read all the threads about the topic, but I still am no closer to having a clue about it at all. lol |
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LSW
Advanced Member USA Joined: Nov 27, 2003 Post Count: 6287 Status: Offline |
The article is far to long... it can be summed up in one or two sentances and would include the words "Shotgun" and "While reloading..."  For that matter it can be summed up in one word... DON'T! Not sure what new style you mean... but a good posting. Reminds me of me "Help Vampire" Post. Course I like anything that has to do with Zombies and Vampires... Carpe Noctem ---------------------------------------- Gu.aal kwsh� yak'�i it�akw ijeet wugood�k LSW-WebDesign.com ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by LSW at Dec 19, 2006 9:58:19 AM] |
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admin
Advanced Member Joined: Jun 14, 2003 Post Count: 2933 Status: Offline |
In the beginning, you do need to do some grunt work ... that is normal.  You have to have some experience, and a track record to show it (portfolio) before you can call yourself a professional web designer. ... after about 10 real web sites, you will have entered the ranks as a neophyte web designer.  This assumes that you continue to develop skills with each site and they get better and better. ---------------------------------------- Stefan Mischook Video Tutorial Store | Web Templates |
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Susie
Advanced Member Ohio, USA Joined: May 30, 2004 Post Count: 2677 Status: Offline |
10 sites, huh? Nobody is knocking my door down asking me to design sites for them, so I'll just be a hobbyest extraordinaire. |
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cboudy
Advanced Member Joined: May 26, 2006 Post Count: 1757 Status: Offline |
hobbyest extraordinaire Ha - good one SueI think the article calls attention to something that most new designers don't know about (more of the business side of the house). I'm sure we've all come across this: dealing with a clients, having that feeling of producing a new fresh site that you can slap your name on and then things start to go down hill. It sill pisses me off till this day that people will actually throw this comments out there". Wow that much, will you know I bought this software for $100 that can build websites, and blah blah". really think that everything on the web is suppose to be cheap (or free). Yea, of course of your a starving artist, you'll have to do some grunt work, but once you get some clout under your belt, it's much better to pick and choose your clients/projects. |
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admin
Advanced Member Joined: Jun 14, 2003 Post Count: 2933 Status: Offline |
Interesting comment: Wow that much, will you know I bought this software for $100 that can build websites .. This, I have heard in the past.  Much in the same way with graphic design; when I was doing more commercial print work (a long while back) I noticed over time how when computers and pirate software got more common, the above comments came about more and more. In response, I gradually shifted to web design, to where I eventually left graphic design altogether. - An interesting point is that it gets a lot harder, for them (cheap ass clients) to make that comment, when the web design job moves from web DESIGN to web programming. .. once you enter the realms of building shopping carts, and you start talking to databases etc .. these sort of comments rarely (if ever) come about. I've been preaching for a while that web designers should learn php for several reasons ... this is one of them. ---------------------------------------- Stefan Mischook Video Tutorial Store | Web Templates ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by admin at Dec 19, 2006 5:43:05 PM] |
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