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LSW
Advanced Member USA Joined: Nov 27, 2003 Post Count: 6287 Status: Offline |
Well, so you have taken the jump and decided to create a Blog or other form of RSS Feed. Now how do you announce it? RSS Feeds simply list new articles that are written. Now if you have Firefox for example, go to Killersites and you will find in both the web site and the forum a orange image with XML (or RSS on some sites) written on it, that is the RSS Feed. That tells people that a RSS Feed is available, just right click on it and tell Firefox to save it as a "Live Book Mark". Now you have a folder you can click on in your menu to see if anything is new. But note I said it tells people you have a RSS Feed. But the web is about automation and spyders too isn't it? Someone has to come to your site to see you have a Blog. Now Look at Killersites again, look to the bottom of the task bar for Firefox. Now in another Tab open my LSW-Web Design and look down to the left corner of the task bar. See something different? It may be a microphone or I think the default is a satalite dish, it may depend on your skin. Visit your other Live Book Marks if you have any and look for that symbol, some have ot and some do not. You can left click on that symbol and add the site to your Live Bookmarks as well. That is a piece of code that tells a RSS Aggregator that this web site includes a RSS Feed, it makes no difference if it is a RSS Reader, Firefox or a e-mail program that reads RSS like Thunderbird. If it can read RSS, it now knows you offer RSS. This can help your site get listed so people looking for RSS Feeds on say web design can find it faster. Also people like me always look for that symbol when we want to add a RSS Feed, only when it is not there then we may look for the orange image. So if you want to improve your chances of your RSS Feed being found, then annouce it to the aggregators. All you need to do is add a link tag to the header of whatever or all pages you wish, here is the generic version: <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://www.yourdomain.com/rss.xml" />Now replace the URL with yours and be sure to correct the file path to match your site. I use QnECMS so my path and file name was different, my code looks like this, note that my file is not a XML file as is the generic version: <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="http://www.lsw-webdesign.com/xmlrss/rss.php" />Just paste that code into the header tags with all your meta tags and have a look at the task bar, you should see the dish. Now left click and add it to the live book marks to see that it works. [Important Note: It may be that Stef uses this on Killersites so it will no longer work as an example in the future, but there are many out there.] Let me add as a footnote: Once you have your RSS you may wish to get it listed so it can be found by people as well as aggregators. Have a look at RSS-Specifications.com to find search engines and RSS Listings to submit your RSS to. ---------------------------------------- Gu.aal kwsh� yak'�i it�akw ijeet wugood�k LSW-WebDesign.com ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by LSW at Oct 15, 2005 9:05:31 AM] |
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Les
Advanced Member Joined: May 9, 2004 Post Count: 640 Status: Offline |
Hi LSW I just looked at your xml (orange icon) thats just shows the html code ?? Whats the reason for an RSS ? -- I am jumping in here with both feet as probably there are a few more people who dont know ?? Not messing about mate, tried to figure it out before  ---------------------------------------- Tomorrow never comes, make the most of today |
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LSW
Advanced Member USA Joined: Nov 27, 2003 Post Count: 6287 Status: Offline |
Hi Les, not a problem. By HTML I assume you double clicked it? That is then XML that you were looking at. RRS stands for "Really Simple Syndication" or "Rich Site Summary", either way it is a technology for syndicating, or publishing information. In the case of my site it is News, in the case of KS it is a real Blog (not that there is realy and difference). When you go to my site you will see a partial article at the bottom, this then links to a new page with the full article. That is all published in a RSS Feed. Now I know you have Firefox on your Machine. Go to the dish antenna in the taskbar and click on it, then click on the menu item that appears and says "Subscribe to RSS". You will now get a new window open with the site name and the URL and a panel showing your favorites. You should see a Book with the name Bookmarks Toolbar Folder (at least I hope you do and it was not something I created myself  ). Highlight that book and say OK.Now in a toolbar in firefox you should see text saying LSW..., click on that and it should fold out with a list of all articles I have written, click on a article and it will open. Why? That you have to consider for yourself. Forinstance you say you like my stuff, now you can open that and see if I wrote anything new. Same with Stef. Subscribe to the forum and see what new posts have been added... I did it for a while but the number is limited and if many post then some will dissapear, so best to do it with Stef's Blog. Consider it from your point: You have this site dedicated to your military unit. What use would it be there?
Anyone you know can add this live bookmark to their reader/e-mail/firefox and see or recieve per mail all new postings at that web site. Other places like Newspapers will use it for the late breaking news. Web designers can use it for publishing our writings. In theory if Stef wanted to, he could publish a article from my site on Killersites by linking to my RSS. We just had it here in the last week or two where a Ausralian member wantd to syndicate a papers feed on her site. That is why RSS is great, many uses and seach engines love them as it means constantly updated content on the web sites. ---------------------------------------- Gu.aal kwsh� yak'�i it�akw ijeet wugood�k LSW-WebDesign.com ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by LSW at Oct 15, 2005 8:34:58 AM] |
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Les
Advanced Member Joined: May 9, 2004 Post Count: 640 Status: Offline |
Hi LSW I am really happy you look after us on here  , it was just above me and I HAD to ask -- I have printed out your message, in case I lose this thread and want to revise. Thanks again mate  ---------------------------------------- Tomorrow never comes, make the most of today |
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shelfimage
Advanced Member USA Joined: Mar 24, 2005 Post Count: 3000 Status: Offline |
Ditto. I have been hesitant to explore this on my own without the blog and cms installations that do it for me now. Thanks for the information and explanations!!! ---------------------------------------- "The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings." -Okakura Kakuzo Save the developers<!> Maine Webworks |
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tpattison
Advanced Member UK Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Post Count: 1662 Status: Offline |
Nice one LSW! I have wondered how RSS works. You've put it into words everyone can understand. Thanks. Killersites is a real mine of information! ---------------------------------------- Pavonis Mons | Listen of the week: "Residue of Desire" by Acumen |
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billyboy
Advanced Member Joined: Sep 3, 2005 Post Count: 2206 Status: Offline |
I'm still more than a bit lost. When you click on the orange xml icon, what does all that code do? Is that what I would use if I wanted to ad an RSS feed to my sight? What do I do with it? How would it display? Do I need to add anything to the html? And if I wanted to recieve a news update or blog in my email, how do I do that? Do only certain email programs support RSS? I'm assuming Outlook doesn't since I've never been able to find anything about it. Lol, I feel so thick. ---------------------------------------- Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur |
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LSW
Advanced Member USA Joined: Nov 27, 2003 Post Count: 6287 Status: Offline |
If you double clicked, then you were looking at the XML code. When you click on the orange xml icon, what does all that code do? Nothing much. Just tells the browser what to show.Is that what I would use if I wanted to ad an RSS feed to my sight? What do I do with it? How would it display? Do I need to add anything to the html? That is what the code would look like, but there is much more to it. I will see if I can find some of my links on how to do it easily. It would display in the end just like any other page of your site. If you go to my site and click on a news item, then you are looking at my RSS feed. Same with the KS Blog.And if I wanted to recieve a news update or blog in my email, how do I do that? Do only certain email programs support RSS? I'm assuming Outlook doesn't since I've never been able to find anything about it. Yes I would assume Outlook does not support RSS. Mozilla Thunderbird does. Maybe others. How to set it up depends on the program. I personally never used RSS in e-mail. I view them all from Firefox. There are also software prams called News readers or RSS readers.Ok, Ii will try to get a tip up in the next few days on ways to call up RSS. I seemed to remember right clicking but I gues tat was wrong with Firefox. I usually do it over the task bar as stated above. I will try to write something up for you. ---------------------------------------- Gu.aal kwsh� yak'�i it�akw ijeet wugood�k LSW-WebDesign.com |
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billyboy
Advanced Member Joined: Sep 3, 2005 Post Count: 2206 Status: Offline |
Thanks for the info Kyle, anything else you could dig up would be most appreciated. So that code is only one part of what I would need if I wanted to add an RSS feed to a site, gotcha. I downloaded Thunderbird this morning - something I've been thinking about anyway, if it can do for email what FF does for browsing I'll probably end up using it as my main email program. Adding an RSS feed to it is pretty easy. Once its set up (really simple) it's just a matter of clicking on the XML icon, grabbing the URL from that page and pasting it into a box. I noticed though, Stefan, I can't add your blogs since there's no XML page for them. And with your site Kyle all the dates display as 10:29 am instead of of showing the date. I know you're good, but I don't think you can add all that content at once. ---------------------------------------- Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur |
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LSW
Advanced Member USA Joined: Nov 27, 2003 Post Count: 6287 Status: Offline |
The Blog from stef has the dish antenna available, you may have to use that. I have never used thunderbird for RSS, I use firefox for those. Just fold out the book mark to see what is new and if it interests me. I get enough e-mail without RSS feeds! Hard to tell what may be causing the time stam you mention, but at a guess I would say that was when you connected to the RSS and it began reading the feed, so all at the same time. Later feeds may show the date then they were written. I have been using Thuderbird as my main e-mail program since it was released. Hate Outlook like the pest, one of the all time worst products M$ ever built. More security holes then a back woods Stop sign in Georgia! ---------------------------------------- Gu.aal kwsh� yak'�i it�akw ijeet wugood�k LSW-WebDesign.com |
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