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Hacking a existing site into a CMS

You all long time members know and have seen my BabyBlue Gov. site for my Districts Youth Services.

They offering me a contract for me to take this design into a CMS so that they can make changes themselves and add content. This would in theory protect my web site to some extent. My reading so far (especially a German accessibility site) seems to suggest the best CMS for accessibility is Plone and Typo3.

Now I have no experiance with CMS programs, and my PHP and Python is Rusty. I am not sure the server even supports Python so that leaves me with Typo3 which is High end.

Which finally brings me to the question:
Is it plausible to hack a existng site into a CMS or is it rather difficult and better to simply rebuild the entire site in the CMS. Also would it be a major undertaking or possible in 3 x 16 hours?

I suspect it is far more work than they think it would be if not impossible without completely re-creating the site. But it also seems the only way to save my work, otherwise it will no longer validate or be accessible in no time at all.

Appreciate any suggestion you all can give me.
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rose Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

hi LSW

This has been the Eclipse of your endeavours, a beautiful creation, real sorry that you might lose it my friend.

But you have the skill to create another excellent site. applause

Dont worry too much ---- you will be ok rose
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

Hi,

I would post the current version of the site on your website in a showcase section - I've had many sites destroyed by clients after the fact ... you need to keep a clean copy of your work.

CMS: basic rule in programming: reuse!

To rewrite from scratch is a huge pain, you're better to find a free open source CMS and make your changes to it.

I appreciate your post, this is an issue that all web designers will someday face and I will address this in killersites' new section.
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

So it is reasonable to take sites already in place and add them to a CMS system.

Ok, I hope so. I was affraid that it is only good for new pages but that the older pages would be left out.

Ok, will start looking into it after Easter, like I said, I am looking at Typo3 now, it is a German CMS actually that is getting good reviews for accessibility support.

Thanks to you both.
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

what is CMS?
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

Content Management System - for managing web sites using individual permissions and such.

If you log into MSN, Yahoo etc. that is a form of CMS.
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

How does it looks like when somebody hack you, the guy or girl run a password track on your CMS account where you're hosted ? And he use all the informations against ya ?
Changes password, ftp account, mail and so on so forth ?

So whats the solution in that case, what the people can do ?
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

I know this is a really old post but I am just working on this at present and need help.
I have built a couple of sites and the clients want to be able to update and edit when they want (understandably) So CMS from what I understand is mainly to be used at the start of the building process? I want to do it the other way around and implement it after that site is already built. The clients don't know HTML or they would have built the sites themselves. I have looked at Mambo and briefly Drupal. I can't figure either one of them out to use the way I want.

The closest I have come to finding something I understand is thru the CPANEL on the host site, Sibername. By logging in and going to the File Manager there is an html editor there and if I place comment tags in areas that are simple enough for them to edit they maybe able to accomplish something. But I was told that this really isn't a CMS.

Any ideas for this simple minded Designer? I am just not getting it.

Thankyou
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

Do you need to allow your clients the ability to create new pages, or just edit existing pages?


I recommend cmsmadesimple.org.

You can use any existing design and port it to CMS MS.


For example, lets say your design is as
<html>
<head>
<title>My web page - company name</title>

</head>
<body>
<div id="wrap">

<div id="content">

[[ HTML content images, etc here ]]

</div>
</div>

With CMS MS, you simply add in their code to make it editable:

<html>
<head>
<title>{title} - company name</title>

</head>
<body>
<div id="wrap">

<div id="content">

{content}

</div>
</div>

Then in the backend, you create pages and the contents of the page are loaded into the HTML using the {content} tag in your template.


Obviously there is a lot more to it to get menus, side columns, etc., but the concept remains the same.
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Re: Hacking a existing site into a CMS

Cough Hack Snneeze...

I amy answer when all the dust settles! Hachoo! laughing
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