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Comments on: Managing Lazy Clients http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/ Web Design News, Articles and Tutorials Wed, 05 May 2010 21:33:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: Stefan Mischook http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Wed, 05 May 2010 21:33:26 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-907 Glad you liked it.

Stefan

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By: tommy http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-906 Wed, 05 May 2010 20:45:55 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-906 Just wanted to say I appricate the post. You have really put a lot of time into your posts and it is just great!

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By: Stefan Mischook http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-671 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:49:23 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-671 “I have dealt with many developers and have heard this exact line of BS and I lost all respect for them and discontinue using them, get the work done.”

Hmmm …. seems to me if you have to work with many developers that you have a problem.

One bad one, sure. Then two developers, hmmm, then you say many! Wow, that tells me you are one of the most unlucky guys out there, or you are difficult to deal with.

Stefan

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By: Stefan Mischook http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-670 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:42:12 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-670 @Marvin,

That is the typical response from a ‘lazy client’. I have never ‘screwed’ a client because:

1. It is not right.
2. It’s also not good for business. The best web contracts, are the long term contracts – if you screw people over, you will miss out on the long term returns.

Thanks but no thanks, for the advice on taking courses on business … I’m doing quite well and have been for the last 20 years in my entrepreneurial career.

🙂

Stefan

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By: Marvin Musgrove http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-669 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:24:26 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-669 P.S. You address the issue of not getting paid until the project is finished then you delay the work to get respect. I thought the goal was to give the customer what he or she wanted and you get the money, but now you tell the coustomer you are busy when you are not, to gain respect. You are delaying getting paid, which is what you wanted to begin with. WOW

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By: Marvin Musgrove http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-668 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:07:15 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-668 This is the biggest Bull **** that I have heard. I have dealt with many developers and have heard this exact line of BS and I lost all respect for them and discontinue using them, get the work done. I have been screwed time and time again by developers. They are crooks equal to used car sells men. I refuse to ever give another developer money up front, I now just turn them into the FTC to expose them for what they are. Please take some courses on business, not how to screw your customer and play games, just do the work and you will have all the customers you want without a contract, if you need a contract to protect your fees, then something is wrong.

Marvin

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By: nanco http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-589 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:09:54 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-589 Thanks for the seasoned advice on handling these types of clients, Stefan.

I learned quickly(and of course, the hard way) that we really DO train our clients as to how they can treat us. When I began my journey as a freelancer, I was quite mistaken in thinking that the further I bent over backwards to meet unreasonable client demands, the more I was building a solid client relationship. In fact, it was just the opposite. Almost without fail, the very same unreasonable clients I jumped through hoops to satisfy would be the ones who were unhappy with Something at the end.

I began to earn more respect and land better clients when I established firm rules of operation from the beginning–and stuck to them throughout the course of the contract. I believe I was seen as being more professional when did that–and that I commanded more respect for doing this early on.

There is much to be said for having your rules of operation in place from the start–it will save a lot of agony in the long run…

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By: Alexander http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:45:29 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-490 Better to print article, not record by voice:
1. Reading is faster than listening.
2. You can go back and forward easy.
3. Voice is not as pleasant as text unless you are a famous actor.
I am not going to listen until end – boring, slow, and pointless.

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By: Edward Davies http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:41:02 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-408 Thank you for the advice, Stefan.

Edward

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By: Stefan Mischook http://www.killersites.com/magazine/2008/managing-lazy-clients/comment-page-1/#comment-324 Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:34:10 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/magazine/?p=90#comment-324 You have to open up lines of communication with your web designer right away so you both know what to expect.

When I hire assistants for my own projects, I look to find trustworthy people and after a few small projects, where I see he/she can work at a speed that is acceptable for me … I let them work on a per dium/by the hour method.

You may want to agree on a fixed cost since you will probably not be able to judge how long something will take to do.

Stefan

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