<![CDATA[KillerSites.com Web Design Forums - multi language websites]]> 2009-08-23T20:14:27Z PunBB http://www.killersites.com/forums/topic/1972/multi-language-websites/ <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> I've never used any of them, but I can't imagine they'd be too hard to implement.  I just did a quick search for multi language plugins for Wordpress.  http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tags/multilanguage

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/4/ 2009-08-23T20:14:27Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10205/#p10205 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Thankyou very much Thelma.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-23T16:39:42Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10202/#p10202 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> I'm using the one in Wordpress - and if I remember how I set it up (it's been a while and it wasn't very difficult) I'll help where I can.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/9/ 2009-08-22T21:01:16Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10190/#p10190 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Hi, me again. I've had a little break from this issue of multi languages. Had decided (for the one site) to just build 2 pages for each language (or, you know what I mean) Susie had asked if I was using CMS for it and at the time I didn't think so but turns out now the one client wants me to. So, yes I have used CMSmade simple a few times now and may try to figure out that module. I just had a brief look at it and when I have installed CMS on this clients server I will work with it.

So, when the time comes, have you actually used the one in CMSmadesimple? It is called babel. Or have you just used the one in Wordpress and would you help me out when the time comes?

Thanks big_smile

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-22T20:20:56Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10189/#p10189 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Right, thank you all for the help and input. I think I am going in the right direction. Will carry on with html pages of each but once again have learned a few things along way - and yes both clients have the translated text ready for me as well.

Thanks again big_smile

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-16T23:16:11Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10007/#p10007 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> I have done several sites in two or three languages and like LM I just use different html pages for each language.

Whichever method you use, it is a pain as every time there is an update it has to be done in both languages regardless of whether they are on 1 page or 2. That is something you need to take into account if you are updating the site for your client so you bill them for double the work.

Hopefully your client will provide you with the text in each language, not like me where they give me the English and expect me to translate to the other language as well.....

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/129/ 2009-08-16T17:59:13Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/10000/#p10000 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> As Thelma said, there's not much point in using the includes unless they're going to be repeated. And yes, your language preference would be maintained as you navigate from page to page. And for the amount of time (in days) you wish. That's what the number does in the anchor. So when they come back to the site later, it's still in the language they picked last.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/7/ 2009-08-16T15:25:44Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9998/#p9998 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> I don't see a point in using includes the German and English parts.  Includes make sense when the same thing is used on multiple pages (like headers, footers, and navigation, for example).

When you use the styleswitcher, it works by hiding parts.  Your English text is in a div called english, the German stuff in one called german.  The stylesheet that's applied when one clicks on 'english' hides the german div, and the stylesheet for 'german' hides the English Div.

One thing I'm wondering so - using the style switcher - as one moves through the site from page to page, will the next page automatically use the same style as one's picked on the current view, or will it default to one of the two?

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/9/ 2009-08-16T15:04:17Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9997/#p9997 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Ah ha! Thankyou Thelma. It seems to work now.

I'm not sure which way I will do the site. Most of it is already built with 2 sets of pages, (english and german) with their correct navigation.

I just want to understand this though, If I use the style switcher for the website, would I need to create new english and german .inc files (with different names to hold the different content? I don't understand that.
<a href="javascript:chooseStyle('none', 60)">English</a>
<a href="javascript:chooseStyle('alternate', 60)">German</a>

<div id="english"><?php include("includes/english.inc"); ?></div>
<div id="german"><?php include("includes/german.inc"); ?></div>

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-16T14:49:28Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9996/#p9996 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> One of the reasons it's not working is probably that in the HTML, you have <div id="German"> (upper case) but in the CSS you use #german (lower case) - don't forget, this stuff is case sensitive.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/9/ 2009-08-16T12:23:16Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9992/#p9992 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> It's not working - the only thing that switches is the background color, English and German are both displayed.  Look at the code -you have multiple sets of doctypes and html tags.  Also, the ä's, ö's, and ü's are showing up as odd symbols.  They should be written like "& uuml;" etc.

When you create the include parts, they only need what will actually be included - so no doctype, etc.  That and the body and html tag are likely in your 'master' page.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/9/ 2009-08-16T12:14:36Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9991/#p9991 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> I still think that this "style" switcher makes sense if you have small includes with the text in other languages.
To create fully functional website in 2 equal language versions it is better to have 2 full sets of HTML pages for each language ( with the link to other language on each page).
Once you done it, to make website easy updatable, look into how to use PHP includes.
If content for both languages needs frequent  updates, do use CMS - WordPress seems most likely to be useful here as it has this  plugin.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/13/ 2009-08-16T11:47:30Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9989/#p9989 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> The link should be working now. I know it wasn't working for a bit when I looked yesterday as well. Wouldn't you know it that it's when you tried it. I thought I needed the english.inc and german.inc for it to work?

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-16T05:13:58Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9985/#p9985 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Hi that link is not working for me. Have you created the JS, CSS, and .inc files? If so, it looks like it should work. Here is what I suggest. Get rid of php inludes for now. Worry about those later once you get it working. Less to think about.

]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/7/ 2009-08-16T02:21:47Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9982/#p9982 <![CDATA[Re: multi language websites]]> Ok Eric, thankyou for the help. I have played abit with the php includes and the styleswitcher. It is a bit confusing even for me to explain what I did so I have uploaded and here is the link. http://mindyourelders.awardspace.com/trial-switcher.php
I have a folder with 3 .inc files in it english.inc  german.inc and  nav.inc 
Here is the code to one php page

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<!-- saved from url=(0014)about:internet -->

<html>
<head>


<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

<title>style switch and includes Testing</title>


<link href="default.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<link href="alternate.css" rel="alternate stylesheet" type="text/css" title="alternate">
<script src="styleswitch.js" type="text/javascript"></script>



</head>
<body>

<div id="container">
<div id="header"></div>
<div id="navcontainer">
<ul id="navlist">
<?php include("includes/nav.inc"); ?>
</ul>

</div>
<div id="content">
<h1>Speedy Translations  - Herzlich willkommen! Welcome!</h1>

<a href="javascript:chooseStyle('none', 60)">English</a>
<a href="javascript:chooseStyle('alternate', 60)">German</a>

<div id="English"><?php include("includes/english.inc"); ?></div>
<div id="German"><?php include("includes/german.inc"); ?></div>
  </div>

     
<div id="footer">
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    </p>
  </div>

</div>
</body>
</html>


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]]> http://www.killersites.com/forums/user/520/ 2009-08-16T01:22:11Z http://www.killersites.com/forums/post/9981/#p9981