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	<title>Comments on: Why ASP, ASP.NET, JSP, Ruby and Cold Fusion Suck .. for web designers.</title>
	<link>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/</link>
	<description>Real world talk about web design, programming and the business of web design.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-136900</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-136900</guid>
		<description>Mike,

I agree with what you say. 

The point of my article was to say that for the vast majority of web projects that web designers will run into, PHP is the best solution.

If I was finding myself in a larger project, I MIGHT consider other options like a .NET of say Java with the Spring framework.

... But PHP with Zend I think may be able handle many enterprise jobs.

Thanks for the comment.

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I agree with what you say. </p>
<p>The point of my article was to say that for the vast majority of web projects that web designers will run into, PHP is the best solution.</p>
<p>If I was finding myself in a larger project, I MIGHT consider other options like a .NET of say Java with the Spring framework.</p>
<p>&#8230; But PHP with Zend I think may be able handle many enterprise jobs.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-136895</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-136895</guid>
		<description>I have to use all ASP.NET, JSP, PHP, and Coldfusion in office for over 8 years.  They all shine in certain areas, one could be better than the other case by case in different project.

Coldfusion and JSP are both based on Java, so if you think Java is good then CF/JSP shouldn't be that bad.  Although i really don't like CF but it is still good for designers and some newbie developers who know nothing else.

while ASP.NET, we gotta remember that nowaday, some web projects are really HUGE that you need a .NET or JAVA level OOP framework to handle.  I have a web project that have 250 classes, i am not going to write that in PHP sorry. ASP.NET is nothing good without a proper use of controls and a good design pattern.

Of course, for a project that take only few months to implement, i would still prefer PHP.

Stefan, if u like Joomla as a CMS in PHP, u can give DotNetNuke a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to use all ASP.NET, JSP, PHP, and Coldfusion in office for over 8 years.  They all shine in certain areas, one could be better than the other case by case in different project.</p>
<p>Coldfusion and JSP are both based on Java, so if you think Java is good then CF/JSP shouldn&#8217;t be that bad.  Although i really don&#8217;t like CF but it is still good for designers and some newbie developers who know nothing else.</p>
<p>while ASP.NET, we gotta remember that nowaday, some web projects are really HUGE that you need a .NET or JAVA level OOP framework to handle.  I have a web project that have 250 classes, i am not going to write that in PHP sorry. ASP.NET is nothing good without a proper use of controls and a good design pattern.</p>
<p>Of course, for a project that take only few months to implement, i would still prefer PHP.</p>
<p>Stefan, if u like Joomla as a CMS in PHP, u can give DotNetNuke a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Mischook</title>
		<link>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-125275</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Mischook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-125275</guid>
		<description>Classic ASP is very easy to learn. But if ease of learning is the #1 thing, then I would be looking to ColdFusion.

On the other hand, I think my php video tutorials (www.killerphp.com) make PHP pretty easy.

... But I must admit I have a bias there!

Stefan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic ASP is very easy to learn. But if ease of learning is the #1 thing, then I would be looking to ColdFusion.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think my php video tutorials (www.killerphp.com) make PHP pretty easy.</p>
<p>&#8230; But I must admit I have a bias there!</p>
<p>Stefan</p>
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		<title>By: baliwebdesigner</title>
		<link>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-125265</link>
		<dc:creator>baliwebdesigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.killersites.com/blog/2007/why-asp-jsp-coldfusion-suck/#comment-125265</guid>
		<description>" why are the other technologies not a good choice for web designers? "

I think this statement came from your personal case, yes PHP is cool, i love it personally, I also love Rails and Classic ASP.

many web designers have choose PHP because they dont want to build their own application, they only need a ready to use website with little tweaking, yes in this case PHP is better there are lot of free ready to use web base application like wordpress, joomla, mambo etc.

but if you need to build from the scratch, Classic ASP is the most easy, the most simple among others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; why are the other technologies not a good choice for web designers? &#8221;</p>
<p>I think this statement came from your personal case, yes PHP is cool, i love it personally, I also love Rails and Classic ASP.</p>
<p>many web designers have choose PHP because they dont want to build their own application, they only need a ready to use website with little tweaking, yes in this case PHP is better there are lot of free ready to use web base application like wordpress, joomla, mambo etc.</p>
<p>but if you need to build from the scratch, Classic ASP is the most easy, the most simple among others.</p>
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