Comments on: Should Web Designers Learn Frontpage? http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/ Real world talk about web design, programming and the business of web design. Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:25:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Web design Sydney http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-65470 Web design Sydney Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:26:35 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-65470 If corporate clients need to update the site, they could be provided with a content management system so that they are only given access to the content areas of the site, so they won't break the site code and programming. If corporate clients need to update the site, they could be provided with a content management system so that they are only given access to the content areas of the site, so they won’t break the site code and programming.

]]> By: Salaboy http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-41551 Salaboy Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:25:16 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-41551 i think if they have a complete control over the code they must learn HTML, otherwise all the programmers that bring life to the page, go crazy with the bad code generated by dreamweaver. plz front page erase it from your machine. i think if they have a complete control over the code they must learn HTML, otherwise all the programmers that bring life to the page, go crazy with the bad code generated by dreamweaver. plz front page erase it from your machine.

]]> By: Taurus http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-14038 Taurus Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:11:41 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-14038 Stefan, Because of experience, I have to disagree with you on this one. The simple fact that "it is still a widely used piece of software" means that designers should learn enough about what it does to the HTML (and how) in order to change it. Learn it from a Designer's perspective and not a user's perspective. I am more of a Developer than Designer (yes, I do make the distinction) and I have seen so many sites from corporate clients still using FrontPage. Because I knew what and how FrontPage changed/added, most of the time, I was able to quickly rebuild the pages using the original source. It doesn't hurt to know FrontPage from this perspective. Surprisingly, this knowledge has been a definite plus for me with corporate clients. Why? Mainly because "corporate" usually equates to "legacy" or old code. I do agree that Designers must learn to hand-code. Even if all you have is notepad, you should be able to get the HTML/CSS/JavaScript done. My 2 cents! Taurus Stefan,

Because of experience, I have to disagree with you on this one. The simple fact that “it is still a widely used piece of software” means that designers should learn enough about what it does to the HTML (and how) in order to change it. Learn it from a Designer’s perspective and not a user’s perspective.

I am more of a Developer than Designer (yes, I do make the distinction) and I have seen so many sites from corporate clients still using FrontPage. Because I knew what and how FrontPage changed/added, most of the time, I was able to quickly rebuild the pages using the original source.

It doesn’t hurt to know FrontPage from this perspective. Surprisingly, this knowledge has been a definite plus for me with corporate clients. Why? Mainly because “corporate” usually equates to “legacy” or old code.

I do agree that Designers must learn to hand-code. Even if all you have is notepad, you should be able to get the HTML/CSS/JavaScript done.

My 2 cents!
Taurus

]]> By: LSW http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-13661 LSW Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:03:17 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-13661 Amen to that... but the bit about button hacks is to disagree with, you should not be using Hacks at all, dangerous in these days of IE7. Amen to that… but the bit about button hacks is to disagree with, you should not be using Hacks at all, dangerous in these days of IE7.

]]> By: Dan Johansson http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-12509 Dan Johansson Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:48:10 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-12509 I would not consider someone a web designer if they have no grasp of the concepts that make up HTML/CSS. Often times there is a emphasis on the tools and not the concepts behind them. Its like teaching someone to paint, without an understanding of art. Dreamweaver is a good tool, but its not a magic bullet. There is no button that will put in browser specific hacks for you. There are things that Dreamweaver can not and probably will never be able to do. The tool does not create the product, only assists in it. I would not consider someone a web designer if they have no grasp of the concepts that make up HTML/CSS. Often times there is a emphasis on the tools and not the concepts behind them. Its like teaching someone to paint, without an understanding of art.

Dreamweaver is a good tool, but its not a magic bullet. There is no button that will put in browser specific hacks for you. There are things that Dreamweaver can not and probably will never be able to do. The tool does not create the product, only assists in it.

]]> By: marcus http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/comment-page-1/#comment-11674 marcus Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:27:43 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/should-web-designers-learn-frontpage/#comment-11674 During the short time I tried to use Frontpage, I found that its tendency to change your code infuriating. You rewrite a bit of the html or ASP by hand, then move on to another part of the document in the GUI and FrontPage assumes you didn't really mean to make that change, so it changes the code back to what it thinks is correct. It will do this even if it the code your wrote by hand is perfectly valid. After this experience I started using Dreamweaver and never looked back. During the short time I tried to use Frontpage, I found that its tendency to change your code infuriating. You rewrite a bit of the html or ASP by hand, then move on to another part of the document in the GUI and FrontPage assumes you didn’t really mean to make that change, so it changes the code back to what it thinks is correct. It will do this even if it the code your wrote by hand is perfectly valid. After this experience I started using Dreamweaver and never looked back.

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