Comments on: Is HTML a scripting language? http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/ Real world talk about web design, programming and the business of web design. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:58:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: shital jethva http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-77330 shital jethva Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:51:57 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-77330 HTML is the "mother tongue" of your browser. HTML is an abbreviation of "HyperText Mark-up Language" - which is already more than you need to know at this stage. However, for the sake of good order, let us explain in greater detail. Hyper is the opposite of linear. In the good old days - when a mouse was something the cat chased - computer programs ran linearly: when the program had executed one action it went to the next line and after that, the next line and so on. But HTML is different - you can go wherever you want and whenever you want. For example, it is not necessary to visit MSN.com before you visit HTML.net. Text is self-explanatory. Mark-up is what you do with the text. You are marking up the text the same way you do in a text editing program with headings, bullets and bold text and so on. Language is what HTML is. It uses many English words. HTML is the “mother tongue” of your browser.
HTML is an abbreviation of “HyperText Mark-up Language” - which is already more than you need to know at this stage. However, for the sake of good order, let us explain in greater detail.

Hyper is the opposite of linear. In the good old days - when a mouse was something the cat chased - computer programs ran linearly: when the program had executed one action it went to the next line and after that, the next line and so on. But HTML is different - you can go wherever you want and whenever you want. For example, it is not necessary to visit MSN.com before you visit HTML.net.
Text is self-explanatory.
Mark-up is what you do with the text. You are marking up the text the same way you do in a text editing program with headings, bullets and bold text and so on.
Language is what HTML is. It uses many English words.

]]> By: VeNoM http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-13298 VeNoM Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:49:33 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-13298 yes even i have seen many people making a mistake in this. they dnt understand that html is a markup language. and that it is not something which goes and processes into the server. scripting laguages are like asp, asp.net,php. and i think now a days asp.net rocks. it has a very wide scope because now it has eliminated the funda of hosting server. yes now i dnt have to thnking of windows hosting or linux hosting as it will run on both the servers. yes even i have seen many people making a mistake in this. they dnt understand that html is a markup language. and that it is not something which goes and processes into the server.
scripting laguages are like asp, asp.net,php. and i think now a days asp.net rocks. it has a very wide scope because now it has eliminated the funda of hosting server. yes now i dnt have to thnking of windows hosting or linux hosting as it will run on both the servers.

]]> By: Robert http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3666 Robert Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:28:03 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3666 Would style-conditionals count as decision making? Are those done with HTML or something else? Looks like HTML to me. To Greg: A designer is not a person who should just be slapping things into their HTML editor with DW or Front-page (gah!). If you tend to work in design view you're more than likely producing sloppy html (paragraphs for line breaks, emtpy divs with no reason). For this reason alone I think any competent designer should be able to write clear concise code by hand. Non-validated/convoluted code only hurts you. Would style-conditionals count as decision making? Are those done with HTML or something else? Looks like HTML to me.

To Greg:
A designer is not a person who should just be slapping things into their HTML editor with DW or Front-page (gah!). If you tend to work in design view you’re more than likely producing sloppy html (paragraphs for line breaks, emtpy divs with no reason). For this reason alone I think any competent designer should be able to write clear concise code by hand.

Non-validated/convoluted code only hurts you.

]]> By: Stefan Mischook http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3551 Stefan Mischook Sat, 02 Sep 2006 17:57:26 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3551 @Edward Clarke, Interesting points. But if HTML is a scripting language, it is one of the most crippled ones out there ... You cannot (for instance) define your own conditional (uh ..) conditions ... you are restricted to a very limited few predefined options. With a true scripting language, you can define a condition, evaluate it and then take an action based on the result. This you cannot do with HTML. In a nutshell: there are no if statements, no loops, no variables - these are all basic constructs of a language. But you say that is not a requirement of a scripting language ..? I don't know who the authority on this is, but somehow I doubt it. Sure there is some cross-over between a markup language and scripting ... but there is cross over between a lot of things. @Edward Clarke,

Interesting points. But if HTML is a scripting language, it is one of the most crippled ones out there …

You cannot (for instance) define your own conditional (uh ..) conditions … you are restricted to a very limited few predefined options.

With a true scripting language, you can define a condition, evaluate it and then take an action based on the result. This you cannot do with HTML.

In a nutshell: there are no if statements, no loops, no variables - these are all basic constructs of a language.

But you say that is not a requirement of a scripting language ..?

I don’t know who the authority on this is, but somehow I doubt it.

Sure there is some cross-over between a markup language and scripting … but there is cross over between a lot of things.

]]> By: Edward Clarke http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3540 Edward Clarke Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:25:04 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3540 HTML *is* a scripting language. A script doesn't need to have decision making capabilities, it can be a set of instructions or rules. A script is interpreted or compiled, then executed. How does HTML not follow this? Oh, SCRIPT/NOSCRIPT and FRAME/NOFRAMES are interpreted decisions which is logic. HTML is almost object based due to the fact you can embed objects with it and include HTML via SSI. A script is defined by the fact it's instructions are interpreted by an application. Sounds like HTML to me!!! HTML *is* a scripting language. A script doesn’t need to have decision making capabilities, it can be a set of instructions or rules. A script is interpreted or compiled, then executed. How does HTML not follow this?

Oh, SCRIPT/NOSCRIPT and FRAME/NOFRAMES are interpreted decisions which is logic. HTML is almost object based due to the fact you can embed objects with it and include HTML via SSI.

A script is defined by the fact it’s instructions are interpreted by an application. Sounds like HTML to me!!!

]]> By: Greg http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3483 Greg Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:17:22 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3483 As a web designer, I'd be lying if I said you dont need to know how to edit HTML, but please, don't waste any time learning how to write HTML from scratch - you just don't need to know it. As a web designer, I’d be lying if I said you dont need to know how to edit HTML, but please, don’t waste any time learning how to write HTML from scratch - you just don’t need to know it.

]]> By: Jarrod http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3475 Jarrod Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:45:06 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3475 While JavaScript is the most widely implemented scripting language, it is possible to use any language, provided the browser you are using can understand it. Microsoft, for example, also makes a scripting language for the Internet Explorer browser called VBScript (based on the Visual Basic programming language) and a few other languages (such as Perl) are also usable with some web browsers. While JavaScript is the most widely implemented scripting language, it is possible to use any language, provided the browser you are using can understand it. Microsoft, for example, also makes a scripting language for the Internet Explorer browser called VBScript (based on the Visual Basic programming language) and a few other languages (such as Perl) are also usable with some web browsers.

]]> By: BluEnt http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3408 BluEnt Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:08:51 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3408 No, HTML is not a scripting language, it is basically a hypertext markup language or a bsic language used to create web pages only. It is the code that tells the web browser how to interpret a web page. No, HTML is not a scripting language, it is basically a hypertext markup language or a bsic language used to create web pages only. It is the code that tells the web browser how to interpret a web page.

]]> By: greg http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3381 greg Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:41:15 +0000 http://www.killersites.com/blog/2006/is-html-a-scripting-language/#comment-3381 Yes, we knew it already. It is used just to create www pages. Yes, we knew it already. It is used just to create www pages.

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